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dantheman

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200 tdi problems
« on: November 29, 2010, 06:56:43 PM »
my dad has a 200 tdi in his 2a, it starts great, revs great for a minute or two,but then starts to pops a bit,and loses power and eventually cuts out,can anybody shed some light?  its had a new lift pump,fuel filter,also it leaks engine oil from around the filter despite the ring being oiled prior to being screwed on tight,anyboby any ideas? cheers-dan
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Buffalo Bill

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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 07:01:23 PM »
i had the same symptoms on a 300 tdi, turned out to be the pump
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dantheman

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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 07:09:30 PM »
fuel pump?injection or lift? cheers-dan
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Buffalo Bill

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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 07:26:18 PM »
sorry injection pump.

once changed motor was fine
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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2010, 05:03:10 PM »
 The oil from out the filler cap is common. Two o rings sometimes works. Does it have oil bath filter? Try disconnecting that and start up  to see if problem continues. The other usual suspects of water in fuel which is frozen, or air leak on pressure side of system from a pipe or fuel line leak.

 What about the old sedimentor or pick up in fuel tank?
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dantheman

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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2010, 05:09:09 PM »
its not the filler cap thats leaking, its the oil filter thats leaking despite new filters being screwed on tight, cheers-dan
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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 06:14:33 PM »
Quote from: dantheman on December 03, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
its not the filler cap thats leaking, its the oil filter thats leaking despite new filters being screwed on tight, cheers-dan
hi did you smear a littel oil on the seal before fiting it all so you can twist the seal buy fiting to tight
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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 06:42:09 PM »
Hi when changing oil filter did you check old seal was removed with filter as two seals don`t work.
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dantheman

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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2010, 05:39:20 PM »
yes, smeared oil on ring,and yes made sure the other ring wasn't still on  ::)
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jay2578

Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2010, 06:04:10 PM »
Have you tried bleeding the fuel system? Replaced the fuel filter?
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dantheman

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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 09:21:06 PM »
yep done that too  ;)
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jay2578

Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 09:23:15 PM »
Hmmmm... can you get to the lift pump through the boot floor? Check see if its picked up some crap out of the tank??
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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 11:23:26 PM »
Hi Dan,
         a couple of things to try with your fuel problem. Try using a gravity fuel feed, just a fuel can piped direct to the fuel inlet on the injection pump. If the engine runs fine with this you can go back through the fuel system from tank to pump as the fault lies on this side of the fuel system. If the fault remains then I would remove the solenoid plunger from the fuel shut off solenoid fitted on the pump, the windings in the solenoid might be causing the the plunger to drop as the magnetism weakens as the windings heat up.
 If the fault persists I would get the pump and injectors tested by a diesel specialist to check fuel deliveries and pressures and injector spray pattern and delivery.

 cheers,
           Stevie.
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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2010, 08:47:23 PM »
or you could buy the pump and injectors i have for sale  ;)
would do you a good deal on them Dan


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Re: 200 tdi problems
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 02:08:04 PM »
A 200tdi will run without a lift pump (the mechanical pump on the side of the block).

It sounds as if you are drawing air somewhere, to me.
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