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DOUGIE

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« on: August 27, 2013, 08:02:29 AM »
where do i get the number for the ratio for the gearbox for my 1999 discovery td5?

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vag_landy

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Re: help
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2013, 11:22:22 AM »
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/calc/ratio_calc.html


Don't know if this is what you need but Ashcroft have all the info on translating gearbox serial numbers. Thought the r380 was in TD5 discos
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SJF

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Re: help
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 10:20:12 PM »
Landy Gearboxes

First, find your gearbox:

LT95                                   LT77 & LT85                                  R380

1      3                            R  1   3   5                                               1   3   5                                     

2      4    R                          2   4                                                    2   4   R

 

LT95 4 speed syncro, built in transfer box, perm 4x4, vacuum operated diff lock optional overdrive
- Range Rover manuals up to 1984
- Series III Stage 1 V8
- 101 Forward Control with shorter bellhousing
- Early 110 V8 up to 1985

LT85 5 speed "Santana", seperate LT230 transfer box
- V8 110
- V8 127/130
- V8 90 1985 onwards

LT77 5 speed with seperate LT230 transfer box   LT77S as above but with "improved" syncromesh from 1991
- 90, 110, 127/130  - 2.25, 2.5 petrol/diesel, 2.5 turbo diesel, 200Tdi
- Range Rover "long stick" type 1983-1985 V8
- Range Rover "short stick" 1985 on,  V8 / VM / 200Tdi
- Discovery 1989-1994,  200Tdi / V8 / Mpi
VM diesel Rangies and MPI Discos have unique bellhousings

R380 5 speed with seperate transfer box launched with the 300Tdi engine
- Defender 300Tdi / V8 / Td5 1993 - present
- Discovery 300Tdi / V8 / Mpi / Td5 1993 - end of Td5 Disco production
- Range Rover classic 300Tdi / V8 1993 - 1995
- Range Rover P38 diesel & V8 manuals

 

LT77/LT77S Manual Gearbox

Model

Box S/N

1st

2nd

3rd

4th

5th

Reverse

90/110 British Military

51A

3.985

2.519

1.5074

1.00

0.8314

3.701

90/110 pre' 200TDI

50A

3.585

2.3008

1.5074

1.00

0.8314

3.701

Disco 200TDI

90/110 200TDI

55A

56A

3.692

2.132

1.397

1.00

0.77

3.429

90/100 V8

Disco V8

60A, 61A
53A, 57A

3.321

2.132

1.397

1.00

0.77

3.429

The LT77 gearbox was used from 1983 to 1989 on 90/110s with 4 cylinder engines and 1990/91 on all 90/110s.  LT77S were used all all Discoverys to 1993 and 90/110s during 1992/93.  All of these boxes use a separate transfer case called the LT230 which is mounted directly onto the output flange of the gearbox.

 

R380 Manual Gearbox
Model   Box Prefix/Suffix   1st     2nd   3rd   4th   5th   Reverse
Defender 2.5NA (short bellhousing)
50J   3.700   2.300   1.507   1.00   0.831   3.701
Disco/RR 300TDI
Disco TD5
Defender 200TDI
Defender 300TDI
Defender TD5
55J
???
55H
56J
68L
3.692   2.132   1.397   1.00   0.770   3.429
Disco/RR V8i   53J   3.321   2.132   1.397   1.00   0.732   3.429
The R380 gearbox was used from 1994 to present on Defenders and Discoverys.  All of these boxes use a separate transfer case called the LT230 which is mounted directly onto the output flange of the gearbox.  Reverse is to the right and down.  This box was brought in as a replacement for the LT77S.  It is noted to be smoother shifting than its predecessor

 

LT85 Manual Gearbox
Gear

Ratio

 
1st   3.6497   
2nd   2.1804   
3rd   1.4362   
4th   1.00   
5th   0.7951   
Reverse   3.8242   
The LT85 gearbox was used from 1984 to 1991 on 90/110s with V8s and 1986 on for Isuzu diesels.  All of these boxes use a separate transfer case called the LT230 which is mounted directly onto the output flange of the gearbox.  This is normally referred to as the "Santana" gearbox as it was used on Santana Land Rovers.

LT95 Manual Gearbox
Gear

Ratio

 
1st   4.0691   
2nd   2.4480   
3rd   1.5049   
4th   1.00   
Reverse   3.6643   
The LT95 gearbox was used from 1969 to 1983 on Range Rovers, all 101s, Stage Is and 90/110s with V8s in 1983/84 and 1985 with Isuzu diesels.  All of these boxes use an integral transfer case.  The transfer case is a "full time" units with a lockable, mechanical differential.  The differential is locked via a vacuum actuator..  Note that the gearbox and transfer case use separate sumps.

 

ZF4HP22 Automatic Gearbox
Gear

Ratio

 
1st   2.48   
2nd   1.48   
3rd   1.00   
4th   0.728   
Reverse   2.086
 

LT230 Transfer Case
 Gear

Ratio

Tooth Count
in/int/int/out

Models Used and Comments

Box S/N

Low Range   3.320   26/41/19/40   LT77, LT77S, LT85   13D, 22D, 28D
    4.340   26/41/20/55   Maxi-Drive Engineering Low range gear set.  Exact ratio
depends on input and intermediate gears that are used which vary slightly by model.

 
High Range   1.003       RR 3 speed auto (TF727)   
    1.222   26/41/40/31   LT77/LT77S   28D
    1.1923       90 V8s with LT85 gearboxes    29D
    1.211           
    1.206           
    1.410    26/41/?/?   All 90s except V8 
All 110s except 2.5/2.25l petrol and N/A diesel   13D, 22D
    1.667    26/41/35/37   110s with 2.5/2.25l petrol and N/A diesel   
The LT230 is an all gear transfer case.  It has been used on all Defenders, Discoverys, pre' 1989 Range Rovers and 90/110s with LT77/LT77S/LT85/R380/ZF4HP22 gearboxes. The transfer case is a "full time" unit with a lockable, mechanical differential.  The differential is locked via a mechanical linkage through a spring inside the box.

 

LT230 Gear Part Numbers
Box S/N

Input P/N,teeth

Intermediate,
low/drive/high

Low

High

13D   FRC5428,26   FRC5424,19/41/?   FRC5435,40   FRC5425,?
22D_suffix_B   FRC5428,26   FRC7884,19/41/?   FRC7434,40   FRC7885,?
29D suffix B   FRC5428,26   FRC7428,19/41/?   FRC7434,40   FTC7429,?
22D_suffix_C   FRC8917,26   FRC9460,19/41/?    FRC7434,40   FRC7885,?
29D suffix C   FRC8917,26   FRC9552,?/?/?   FRC7434,40   FRC9551,?
22D suffix E on   ?   ?   FTC1741,40   ?
32D_to_LA939975   ?   FRC9552,?/?/?   FTC1084,?   FTC1085,?
32D_from_MA939976   FTC4188,?   FRC4190,?/?/?   FTC1084,?   FTC4189,?
 

LT95 (Transfer Case section)
Gear

Ratio

Tooth Count

Models Used

Low Range   3.3206       All
High Range   0.996       Australian Spec 110 with 4BD1 Isuzu Diesel
    1.113       
    1.174       101FC
    1.3362       110
All LT95 transfer gears are interchangeable.  They can be changed with the gearbox on the vehicle.

 



                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
            
 

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SJF

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Re: help
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 10:21:38 PM »
Hope that helps copy and paste it into your notes lol